its simple really. im programs should be able to access the cell
id, gps, or accelerometer to know when you are in motion, then auto
reply that you are in motion, not just away from a pc. they should
also integrate with built-in contact lists and show
presence/availability lke jaiku mobile for s60 does. this would
make mobile im a social active app; not the passive one that works
best when sitting still un front of a pc.
@arjw: Indeed all good
thinking, one of the problems here though is that the
handset/chipset manufacturers have kept their platforms well locked
down. Even on the Symbian platform it isn't possible to get access
to useful bits of information (like cell timings) without reverse
engineering things.
This is why I await the Android platform and the new open
Symbian stuff.
yea; but like you say, its still going to be fragmented. things
like using the cell id for location or just knowing that a device
is in use should be something widely reported and shared as all
benefit from it. as it stands, mobile is missing the boat because
in areas like im, presence, and even web, its too much of the
passive thinking that is driving things than an active one.
i just wanted to put it out there as an idea. some of us are in
work or personal arrangements where we get an im while driving and
just cannot respond to the person right then. having a smarter im
capacity that is not independent of the rest of the contacts app
would just be nice.
The idea is certainly possible on the S60 platform, and for most
of us here that would be a great step forward. But of course for it
to be really useful it needs to be widely adopted across all
handsets.
What is really needed is rule based communication routing, think
something like: if my phone is in use or in motion then put call
through to VM, but respond to IM/TxT with "I'm busy right now but
will get back to you just as soon as..."
In fact the long term prospects for smarter call handling are
quite enormous and an area we have spent an awful lot of time
looking at over the last year. Now if someone out there has a
million bucks or so then we'll get on with building something just
like this ;o)
Maybe at some point we should talk. As for the carriers - they
are the last group you want to convince. For a system like this to
actually work (i.e. have enough of a user base that it flies) you
have to remain carrier agnostic.
Honestly the whole creating telco services at the edge of the
telco network is something the carriers are scared witless by as it
turns them into a dumber pipe.
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1 month, 4 weeks ago by rcadden.
its simple really. im programs should be able to access the cell id, gps, or accelerometer to know when you are in motion, then auto reply that you are in motion, not just away from a pc. they should also integrate with built-in contact lists and show presence/availability lke jaiku mobile for s60 does. this would make mobile im a social active app; not the passive one that works best when sitting still un front of a pc.
1 month, 4 weeks ago by arjw.
auto away when in motion is a great idea!
1 month, 4 weeks ago by markguim.
Damn. That's an awesome idea...
1 month, 4 weeks ago by zacharye.
Yup! What more can I say...convergence is a word of many meanings, sadly very few are actually transformed into reality in the mobile world right now.
1 month, 4 weeks ago by bvlad.
@arjw: Indeed all good thinking, one of the problems here though is that the handset/chipset manufacturers have kept their platforms well locked down. Even on the Symbian platform it isn't possible to get access to useful bits of information (like cell timings) without reverse engineering things.
This is why I await the Android platform and the new open Symbian stuff.
1 month, 4 weeks ago by barneyc.
yea; but like you say, its still going to be fragmented. things like using the cell id for location or just knowing that a device is in use should be something widely reported and shared as all benefit from it. as it stands, mobile is missing the boat because in areas like im, presence, and even web, its too much of the passive thinking that is driving things than an active one.
i just wanted to put it out there as an idea. some of us are in work or personal arrangements where we get an im while driving and just cannot respond to the person right then. having a smarter im capacity that is not independent of the rest of the contacts app would just be nice.
1 month, 4 weeks ago by arjw.
The idea is certainly possible on the S60 platform, and for most of us here that would be a great step forward. But of course for it to be really useful it needs to be widely adopted across all handsets.
What is really needed is rule based communication routing, think something like: if my phone is in use or in motion then put call through to VM, but respond to IM/TxT with "I'm busy right now but will get back to you just as soon as..."
In fact the long term prospects for smarter call handling are quite enormous and an area we have spent an awful lot of time looking at over the last year. Now if someone out there has a million bucks or so then we'll get on with building something just like this ;o)
1 month, 4 weeks ago by barneyc.
@barneyc: VCs?
1 month, 4 weeks ago by bvlad.
Find me one or more and i can organize the developers to build it ;-)
1 month, 4 weeks ago by arjw.
Got the developer(s), a chunk of the specs and financial models. Need money. Catch22
1 month, 4 weeks ago by barneyc.
I don't need the money just yet; put me in front of folks though and I'd convince them it would work...even the carriers ;)
1 month, 4 weeks ago by arjw.
Maybe at some point we should talk. As for the carriers - they are the last group you want to convince. For a system like this to actually work (i.e. have enough of a user base that it flies) you have to remain carrier agnostic.
Honestly the whole creating telco services at the edge of the telco network is something the carriers are scared witless by as it turns them into a dumber pipe.
1 month, 4 weeks ago by barneyc.